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Khabar (definite?)

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1 Khabar (definite?) on Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:34 am

Assalamu Alaikum

I wanted to ask a question with regards to the grammar breakdown of 'The Ka'bah is the House of Allah'

Here the Ka'bah is the subject and the House is the Predicate.

Why is THE house the predicate, as it is definite. In a nominal sentence the khabar is generally indefinite. Is the khabar here definite as it is 'possessed' as well?

JazakAllahu Khayran


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2 Re: Khabar (definite?) on Fri Nov 05, 2010 3:47 pm

This needs to be answered by students.

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3 Re: Khabar (definite?) on Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:29 am


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So far you may have only come across indefinite predicates in lesson.
However, definite predicates can occur in a Nominal sentence if:

a) The definite predicate is preceeded by a pronoun (ضمير)e.g. هُوَ
b) The predicate is itself a prounoun (pronouns are definite by default) e.g. هُوَ هُوَ 'He is he' (The angels whispered this to eachother when they first saw the prophet Muhammad ص in Jannah).

So yes 'The house of Allah' is an idaafah construction which falls under a).

I hope that helps inshAllah.


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4 Re: Khabar (definite?) on Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:42 am

Please note that it does not fall under a) as you mentioned.

Rather, a definite predicate can exist if the predicate itself is possessed. This is the case of the example provided in the question.

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